it's a matter.
It's amazing were talking about
Verlander and Kershaw it's like
a decade ago and these guys are
still among the best in the
game.
I know we talk a lot about agent
curves out but we're looking at
a class of pictures here with
Sure and I'll throw deGrom in
there as well because I think he
has many more good years ahead
of him.
Kershaw, Verlander there still
at the top of their game.
It's amazing.
You know, and I like it.
Obviously, you know, with 100%
respect to analytics of hearing.
As often as I've heard the last
few years of age, 31 season, age
32 season.
I've never really referred to my
age, whatever season as to how
effective a guy is.
And now we're looking at what's
the A.B. On that.
Well, It's a 43 million years.
So by the way, no trade clause
is 38 next year.
And so here are the details and
Jon Heyman, don't know when the
guys get any sleep.
But john Hammond one of our
great insiders, Joel Sherman
doing a fantastic job.
Jp maroc as well.
43.3 mil per year.
Full no trade third year option.
That vesting option at 35 And
he'll be 40 next year.
Does that concern you?
I mean, well, I mean obviously
cy young award winner this this
past year is his 3rd 17 E.R.A.
But he did get roughed up in the
playoffs.
Yeah look just throwing a
baseball is is an unnatural
thing.
So everything about what we see
in major league Baseball of guys
that are throwing 95 200 miles
an hour.
Uh There's there's a risk.
It is, it's an inherent risk of
throwing baseball and my
concern.
No, I mean he came up late in
his career, Tommy john um and as
effective as he was with an E.
R.A. Of one set five, a
phenomenal year cy young.
I look, there are certain guys
that can change and develop as
as they get a little older young
kid who throws hard to figure
out.
You come up with another pitch,
maybe utilise two or three
secondary pitches.
We see it with him with both his
slider and curveball really
doesn't use his changeup.
He averaged right at 95 miles an
hour.
It's a two year deal.
It's not a five year deal.
I mean, they, as you said, it's
the price these days to get an
elite pitcher.
Once again, you're replacing
deGrom, who I think is the best
pitcher in baseball.
This was the only other option
for the new york mets and as far
as his stuff, I agree.
He actually came back.
He told me he feels like his
fastball is actually better the
way it plays, especially up in
the strike zone.
He came back amazingly well from
Tommy john surgery, postseason.
He told me he had a lot of
starts there.
He was going on 789 days of rest
, he was out of routine.
He told me he got lazy because
he didn't have game competition
to stay starting.
Sharpen some bad habits.
He had just playing catch and
bullpens lead into some games.
I don't worry about him at all.
I go back and I know there's
only one known Ryan but the
Astros said good bye to Nolan
Ryan after the 88 season because
they thought he wasn't worth the
money.
Texas, rangers stepped in, he
pitched five years for the
rangers and Justin wants to
pitch that long and l you love
this.
I went back and looked at the
last time the last four times
pitching staff had two starters
And I know you love this age, 38
season and above who are
qualified.
That means they made their
starts right.
It can be done.
It hasn't happened in a long
while, but we're talking about
outliers when it comes to age.
I believe that once you get to
this point, you've been this
good for this long.
The way your body is the way
your DNA is, you're an outlier.
You know, the rules generally is
not going to apply to guys like
Verlander and Nolan Ryan and and
David Wells and these kind of
guys pitch forever.
So I don't worry about age with
Scherzer, I don't worry about
age with Verlander, they've
earned the trust.
I think that they can go out
there and still be effective at
this age and I'm glad you said
that and I'm glad you showed the
board because I really can't
stress it enough.
I do think that there's young
pitchers in the game mostly out
of some level of insecurity and
perhaps listening to a lot of
people with clipboards that you
chase analytics and I'm not, I'm
not, I'm not disqualifying.
I think it's important.
You have numbers and they
support what you look at all
those notes right in front of
three hours.
Be careful fred.
I got a pilot's heavy.
However, when you get to the
status of the guys were talking
about, well he's going to look
at it.
I know Verlander said he never
got on the mound without having
track man but utilize it as a
tool and, and the mets while
they're heavy analytics now you
got Justin Verlander got max
Scherzer, smart intelligent
pictures.
Do you figure out a way if I
look at my, my line, it's seven
innings, three hits, no runs.
Do I care that my slider metrics
was off or maybe even more so
when we talk about Graham as he
ages, you don't have to throw 98
, mph.
Jake to be great.
I think the only thing the Mets
have to do with these two
starters in front of rotation is
manage their workload because
max is not the same kind of
workhorse.
He's thrown 110 pitches in the
game once in the last two years.
He's not that guy anymore.
You just leave out there.
The Dodgers stop doing that with
Clayton kershaw.