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Todd welcome.

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Why.

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It's OK.

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Good.

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How are you.

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Thanks for having me.

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You got it Todd.

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Is this something that came

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about quickly or is this

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negotiation ownership.

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And Dave had it been brewing a

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long time in a funny side twist

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his arm or this just come to

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fruition because you know Levine

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Michael Hill or said no first.

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What can you tell me about that.

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Yeah I think certainly he was on

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the Phillies radar from the very

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beginning from the moment they

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demoted Matt Cleantech is GM.

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But it sounded like Dave

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Dombrowski was content to talk

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to Ken Rosenthal last month and

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said hey I'm not interested in

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another front office job.

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I want to bring baseball to

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Nashville.

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And these pieces these other

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people that the Phillies

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interviewed started to kind of

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fall away.

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You mentioned Michael Hill Josh

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Burns that Levine John Middleton

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the Phillies owner circled back

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to Dave Dombrowski.

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And Chris I don't know what he

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said to convince Dave Dombrowski

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to change his mind but he said

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something or offered something

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within the past week to convince

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him to leave Nashville and come

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to Philadelphia and try to get

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this franchise turned around a

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franchise that hasn't been the

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playoffs since 2011.

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Long time I a guy get it but

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they have some pieces big pieces

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in a big market but obviously

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the question you have to ask

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yourself is finances.

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I mean you know we've all heard

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about how much money they have

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lost.

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We know they know they have

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reassigned.

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Lots of people work for the

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organization.

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You know I don't know about Reha

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Muto their bullpens a mess but

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that's all going to cost money.

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What's dumb.

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Dombrowski is the guy who needs

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money to spend.

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He likes that.

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Is he going to have any.

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What do we know about that

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financial input here for David.

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The team.

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So this is going to be

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interesting is everybody I think

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once they heard the Phillies

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hired Dave Dombrowski everybody

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said well right now the Phillies

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are just going to spend spend

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spend.

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He's going to trade some of the

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top prospects away and they're

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just going to go for broke in

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twenty twenty one.

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I'm told that that is not the

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case that they still plan to

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shed some payroll in 2021 that

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they told Dave Dombrowski you

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know we are not going to

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increase our payroll.

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We're not going to maintain our

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payroll.

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We're going to have to cut back

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a little bit.

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And apparently he was OK with

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that.

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So is he going to have enough

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money to sign JT Raley Muto and

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fill in all of these other

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pieces.

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Well quite frankly I think this

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is one of the reasons why they

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hired him because he he's had a

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track record of being able to

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identify and acquire talent.

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It might not be the blockbuster

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talent that he wants to acquire

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but he's going to have to kind

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of pick around the edges a

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little bit and do what the past

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regime did not do.

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Well the last five years which

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is find those complimentary

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pieces.

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You mentioned the bullpen.

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It was the worst bullpen in

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baseball in the last 90 years.

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They're going to need Dave

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Dombrowski to kind of look

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through these guys these one

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million dollar guys these minor

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league freeagent guys and find

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some guys and actually hit on

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them.

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Well the other thing is too.

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You know he is not going to sit

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there and listen to the twenty

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three year old but out at

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Dartmouth.

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Talk to him about data.

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And this is what I think we

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should do and this what we

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should do here.

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He does not have a reputation.

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He's got a small circle of

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advisers.

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He had La Russa and folks up

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there in Boston.

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He's not going to sit there.

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And you know we'll put 30 people

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around a round table and get

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everybody his input.

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That's not Dombrovskis way.

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He's the boss.

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How's that going to sit in the

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front office.

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Let me get your thoughts there.

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Go ahead.

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Well that also is interesting

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Chris because the Phillies

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basically went all analytics

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over the last five years and

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they praised sickly pushed aside

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all the scouting voices in the

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organization.

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And if the numbers said go get a

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guy they went and got the guy

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they didn't really listen to the

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other people that might have had

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differing opinions.

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So are they going back in the

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other direction and are they

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going to ignore the numbers or

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is there actually going to be a

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true bounce there.

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We're expecting to talk to Dave

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Dombrowski today.

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And that is one of the questions

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I want to know is you know what

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is the balance you plan to

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strike between analytics.

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The Phillies have invested

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millions of dollars in an

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analytics department.

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Are you going to consider these

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guys or are you going to go back

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to what the Phillies maybe were

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in the past and what he had been

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in the past.

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Yeah it's a very interesting

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dynamic.

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I you know he's in he's really

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more old school.

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You know he does a lot of

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hunches.

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You know he identifies the great

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player and spends a fortune to

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get them.

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Miguel Cabrera perfect example.

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Price didn't work out that way.

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Sale when he made that.

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So that's where that's his M.O.

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His M.O. is not to you know find

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these hidden gems or you know

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gonna come up here and have a

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deep farm system and all those

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things.

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That's a very interesting

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scenario as far as the foot is

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gone.

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Do you think this is good news.

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Correa Machado or bad news.

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I guess it's got to be

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considered good news because the

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old regime wasn't going to pay.

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Maybe the new one will.

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So I would dig if you're his

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agent you'd be happy about this

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development today right.

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Yeah I think so.

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You know even if the Phillies

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aren't going to break the bank

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necessarily and go you know go

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over the luxury tax and even if